Mystery of Acambaro Mexico

Fact or Fiction: The discovery of over 20.000 dinosaur and human figurines by Waldemar Juisrud in 1923.They were excavated at El Toro Hill and now on display in a museum built in 1999 in the name of the late Waldemar Juisrud.He traced the tribe he named the Chupicauo Indians back to 500BC.

I never heard of those figurines. Thank you ever so much for drawing the attention to this. Wow.. that's so exciting

The human figurines are depicted with the interactions of baby dinosaurs and treated like pets.

wow thats cool!

Remember that fossils have been eroded out of the rocks for millenia and humans have found dinosaur fossils ever since, long before the term "Dinosaur" was even coined in the eighteenth century.

In fact, dinosaur bones have been recorded as far back as ancient China where they found "Dragon" bones (presumably dinosaur fossils) and ground them up to create medicines.

So, it's not surprising that dinosaurs are depicted in ancient cultures. They were probably depicted as their dieties on Earth.

It's still a fantastic find! It turns out to be another record of dinosaur finds.

I would love to go see this collection.I'm a sculptor who also works with clay maybe some day they'll find mine and wonder what I was thinking.

The one with the child treating the baby dino like a pet is probably a procompsognathid that survived or, it could be bible influenced, as well.

mybe its false because the stegosaurus looks almost like an iguana

That's a pretty be iguana

huh?

I'll agree with Tyler, they look a lot like iguanas.

Peoples visions of mythical monsters and dragons are always inspired by the animals they see around them Many legendary monsters from ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia were lion-like, the Vikings told stories about huge wolves and giant snakes, and so on. As far as I can tell these figurines appear to be inspired by lizards and iguanas.
The really cool part is when legends are inspired by fossils, like Raptor Lewis says. Many local hunter-tribes in northern Siberia and Canada have tales about meeting live Mammoths. As far as we know, these tale must be based on encounters with many-1000-year-old frozen mammoth fossils sticking out of the tundra!

thanks ceph! i agree to! with your point!

Ceph wrote:

Many local hunter-tribes in northern Siberia and Canada have tales about meeting live Mammoths. As far as we know, these tale must be based on encounters with many-1000-year-old frozen mammoth fossils sticking out of the tundra!:)

You also have to remember that mankind did have interactions with (such as hunting) mammoths before they went extinct. Many stories told by the native hunter-gatherer tribes of old were probably passed down from generation to generation, therefore being about true encounters, but ones that occurred before their time.

Humans may have met the last mammoths. But these last populations of mammoths were quite small, and sparse. And the tales would have to survive for several thousand years.
I dont know much about the indigineous hunters from Siberia, but the inuits of today's Canada and Greenland descend from cultures that migrated into the american continent after mammoths went extinct there.

Besides, one of the 'facts' from such hunter stories is that mammoths supposedly "live underground". This makes it pretty obvious that they are really about frozen specimens

wow thats cool humans seen mammoths i wounder what they thought of them when they first layed eyes opon them

Tyler- We probably started questioning their significance....only after we figured out to use them as a food source, .

hahahahaha yeay your right thats funny

Glad you think so, Tyler Sadly, Not everyone gets my jokes. Oh well! I'm not Jerry Seinfeld, so what does it matter?

whalesend wrote:

The human figurines are depicted with the interactions of baby dinosaurs and treated like pets.

It's Creationist fantasy. Look at the URL in the picture. If this was a real find, then it would be based off of fossil evidence. Sadly, this is not the case.


Does this help or make any sense?

Naveed wrote:

Ceph wrote:

Many local hunter-tribes in northern Siberia and Canada have tales about meeting live Mammoths. As far as we know, these tale must be based on encounters with many-1000-year-old frozen mammoth fossils sticking out of the tundra!:)

You also have to remember that mankind did have interactions with (such as hunting) mammoths before they went extinct. Many stories told by the native hunter-gatherer tribes of old were probably passed down from generation to generation, therefore being about true encounters, but ones that occurred before their time.

Another excellent point by Naveed!!! Let's all give him a big hand!!! ::

Seriously, though, you made an excellent point Naveed. We, Humans, DID have the experience of hunting mammoths. So, those stories are, in fact, true.

whalesend wrote:

Fact or Fiction: The discovery of over 20.000 dinosaur and human figurines by Waldemar Juisrud in 1923.They were excavated at El Toro Hill and now on display in a museum built in 1999 in the name of the late Waldemar Juisrud.He traced the tribe he named the Chupicauo Indians back to 500BC.

Looks to me like more Creationist Fantasy. Look again, Whalesend, and more closely this time. See the URL? This could be faked. It's that or they think this find proves that prehistoric life was like the Flintstones ot something.

im not to sure. but dang those artifacts are so old!

Hi raptor, That's why I titled it fact or fiction. It doesn't mean I believe, in fact I was curious that the teeth and back spikes weren't broken after being buried for so long but then I never buried one of my figures to see what it would have looked like after so many years. sorry I posted it.

its as fake as grape-bologny-vitamins that taste good. These were probably made 4 minutes before they took these pictures. of course since 30% of the US population is now Athiest, compared to 2% in 1970, they will try to pull something off (which they didnt)

Throwing in my two cents:

I feel that the evidence that these are not dinosaurs lies in the very way they look.

First the anatomy is all wrong. They may loosely resemble dinosaurs, but in no way match up with what we now know about dinosaur anatomy.

Secondly, there are numerous specimens in the collection that in no way look like dinosaurs. Heck if you look at the pictures on this pagesome look quite a bit like dogs.

Finally, I have to say that of all the artifacts of ancient Central/South American cultures, these hardly match the style. Of course I could be wrong, but honestly they look like something I would have made with clay as a kid.

I have just posted my 3-part documentary on the Mysterious Artifacts of Acambaro. I have recent video of the collection at the museum and interview.
Type in Mysterious Artifacts of Acambaro in youtube. peace

What do you suppose the significance is of the source of these photos? They appear to come from www.bible.ca and depict dinosaurs and humans interacting, which we know from a geological point of view would be inaccurate.

Exactly, and the people who generally go to www.bible.ca don't exactly believe in accepted geology. Heck, many of them won't except the KT boundary if it was staring them in the face.

Whalesend- I know you titled it "Fact or Fiction." That's why I pointed those points out, to try and join in the discussion and help answer the question. So, I believe you.

Naveed wrote:

Exactly, and the people who generally go to www.bible.ca don't exactly believe in accepted geology. Heck, many of them won't except the KT boundary if it was staring them in the face.

Well put, Naveed Well put... Good point, though. You are very much correct!