Talk.Origins banned subject: What is a kind continued

don't know about creationist, but it seem to apply to today observations, there is no evidence of any new lifeform comming into existence via evoluition. most Genus are abiut the same, since Man start dealing with other creatures, no life form has appeared. Not even by genetic engineering.

see my earleir reply.

any examples of 'new life forms'

Jabriol, there are LOTS of new life forms 'evolving' all the time...in the minds of the true believers. There is that 'life' they keep rediscovering on the ALH meteorite. And...how about the coelocanth. It went extinct...uh...200 MYA and by the miraculous effects of Natural Selection, it re-evolved again in 1935.

Plenty. If you use your own definition (the 'limits' of 'cross-fertility', then numerous examples of 'new life forms' via hybridization/polyploidy in plants have been produced, almost at will, for more than a century. These hybrids are interfertile only with themselves, not with either parent species (or 'kind', if you prefer). In fact, in multiple instances, wild species/kinds were reproduced in the lab through deliberate hybridization.

But this more or less speciation, which I do not have aproblem with. Any new Genus?

something that can be observed tested falsified, or can even pass the scientific method?